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GoldenApple_NB

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Raid Log

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My defense setup

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I need some help on seeing how this was possible without disarm/destroy my wire traps on the top right entrance then destroying the door. I tried it on my own but the grenade throw range is too short to nade my fort from the doorway anyways, so it's a real mystery.


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GoldenApple_NB

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btw I'm not calling this person a cheater; I just need answers on how he did it so I can prevent it next time.


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#3
Deadzoner

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Apple, I highly recommend to email this to support@deadzonegame.com because the picture you post is quite fishy.
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#4
Cherry

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Hey GoldenApple ... you discovered the secret of melee exploiting.

 

He spawned left behind your lines ... unfortunately one of his melee doesn't get supressed so he can throw grenades.

 

You might want to try ... it is not fair but easy to do.

 

Still waiting for Con to fix it.


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samwalle5

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this is not hacking or something melee exploiting..this is skill..maybe all goldenapple survival easily got kill coz of they injury


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arose

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this is not hacking or something melee exploiting..this is skill..maybe all goldenapple survival easily got kill coz of they injury

 

 

this is skill

 

Sorry, but no. This is melee exploiting. You could say "you need to know how to do it", but that doesn't change the fact that it's melee exploiting. There's no other way of wording it.


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Maricon

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It's not an exploit. Con said he designed this feature on purpose to get rid of one sided wonders. Totally legit according to the game devs.
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arose

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It's not an exploit. Con said he designed this feature on purpose to get rid of one sided wonders. Totally legit according to the game devs.

Don't use Con's quotes out of context.

He designed BOWS (1 capacity, long reload time) to use the reload invincibility to (as you quoted) "deal with one sided wonders". He was NOT referring to melee exploiting and I think people have been banned for the use of melee exploit before.

Supporting my point that this is neither intended nor a legit tactic, Con has adressed the melee exploit before: He decreased the grenade throwing range for suppressed survivors and made survivors "stand up" (→ making them vulnerable) while throwing grenades.


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Cherry

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this is not hacking or something melee exploiting..this is skill..maybe all goldenapple survival easily got kill coz of they injury

 

 

It's not an exploit. Con said he designed this feature on purpose to get rid of one sided wonders. Totally legit according to the game devs.

 

Oh well guys ... you make me laugh :)

 

Two of three melee getting suppressed and one can throw tons of grenades.

 

Anyone explaining to me which skills I need to do that?

 

It is exploiting and not intended ...


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samwalle5

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Cherry are u blind or what?

When did he throw tons of grenades?

that guy only throw 4 grenade (attacker fighter 2 wear bra so he can bring 4 grenade)

and he also bring smoke to prevent getting suppressed.

 

Cherry u the one make me laugh now...lololo


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GoldenApple_NB

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Cherry are u blind or what?

When did he throw tons of grenades?

that guy only throw 4 grenade (attacker fighter 2 wear bra so he can bring 4 grenade)

and he also bring smoke to prevent getting suppressed.

 

Cherry u the one make me laugh now...lololo

throwing 4 consecutive grenades under 64 seconds is enough to be referred to "tons"


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samwalle5

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throwing 4 consecutive grenades under 64 seconds is enough to be referred to "tons"

^everybody can do that

i play DZ for more than 2 year and i never found any mystery raid until now..

and u goldenapple lvl 45 (new player) every week complaint to con about other player raiding.

i know u want that guy get BAN..because he trashed u

61 000 000 player play DZ. but no body complaint each other about myster raiding(except bow exploit

u still new on raiding so stop fooling yourself!!


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GoldenApple_NB

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^everybody can do that

i play DZ for more than 2 year and i never found any mystery raid until now..

and u goldenapple lvl 45 (new player) every week complaint to con about other player raiding.

i know u want that guy get BAN..because he trashed u

61 000 000 player play DZ. but no body complaint each other about myster raiding(except bow exploit

u still new on raiding so stop fooling yourself!!

While being shot at by 10 defenders? not so much

You like to look at me and call me a noob cuz of my level? I probably learned more in first 2 months than you did in your first year.

Also nading the buildings down isn't trashing. Also, I never accused him of hacking or asked for a ban on him. I simply asked how it was possible and trying to learn from it and you come up with your bullshit

I'm pretty sure melee exploit's been out for longer than bow exploits.

Already gotten 500 fuel reward 3 times and you call me a noob? get your shit together


Edited by GoldenApple_NB, 30 June 2016 - 04:02 PM.

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samwalle5

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While being shot at by 10 defenders? not so much

You like to look at me and call me a noob cuz of my level? I probably learned more in first 2 months than you did in your first year.

Also nading the buildings down isn't trashing.

I'm pretty sure melee exploit's been out for longer than bow exploits.

Already gotten 500 fuel reward 3 times and you call me a noob? get your shit together

lolol 3 time only?..

me 15+ time also this week war we 1st again lolol

but u never try lvl55 vs lvl55 so u still noob for me..

and what happening this war? hiding?


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LLiquid

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lolol 3 time only?..

me 15+ time also this week war we 1st again lolol

but u never try lvl55 vs lvl55 so u still noob for me..

and what happening this war? hiding?

 

It's ok everyone, you can stop looking. 

 

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#16
passing player

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this is off topic.

he asked how it happened. now someone should answer him instead of raging over random stuff.

and I dont see how that is not an exploit.

note: NB, is the uni armors 70% explosive any of them?

EDIT: added logic.

 

and u goldenapple lvl 45 (new player) every week complaint to con about other player raiding.

i know u want that guy get BAN..because he trashed u

61 000 000 player play DZ. but no body complaint each other about myster raiding(except bow exploit

u still new on raiding so stop fooling yourself!!

how did you know he want that?

or that nobody complained?

or that he is new?

OR THAT he complain everyday?

do not make comments if you do not know the truth, mate.


Edited by passing player, 30 June 2016 - 06:17 PM.

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#17
GoldenApple_NB

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I've tested out the grenade damages. the grenade damage is ledgit

the problem is how the grenade was thrown in dead center of my fort


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#18
Lanceyy

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people saying this isnt exploiting are just funny. 

 

Con tried to fix this exploit already by reducing the grenade throw ranges while suppressed. sadly more or less unsuccessfully :/


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#19
Lanceyy

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it not being a bannable offense and it being an exploit are two different things though


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#20
joeIII

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Nor is Con giving his OK on something the same as the community embracing it.  Melee exploiting continues, and will be really kinda hard to end completely without changing suppression invulnerability and AI targeting.  Which isn't going to happen.

 

So the community itself seems to have stepped in.  Melee exploiters are identified and trashed for a week or so.  Its an ugly, mob mentality fix.  But it seems to be largely effective.

 

 

 

(As a side note, its worth noting Apple got the extra hand at the end when he no longer had enough defenders to keep attackers well suppressed.  This addresses an earlier question elsewhere.)


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