Luis, it so happened that you had a bad encounter with somebody who was member of 187. Others might have had unfortunate encounters and conversations with members of other alliances. The easiest way to go is blocking those you dislike and ignore them. It is hard to do because naturally you feel the need to reply to whomever annoyed you. An alliance is formed of 50 members, from all walks of life and backgrounds. Sometimes,in big alliances, you yourself as an alliance member may not like some in there but I learned a long time ago that you have to accept that and move along for the well being of the group. There is no way you can have a big alliance of 50 angels. I have my own reasons to believe some people in certain alliances are pure evil. No later than last night I was told by somebody I was trying to recruit what stories they spread around the game about me, some even involving pieces (mostly inaccurate) of my personal life. I thought .,...well recruiting has gone a long way from the old "recruiting active raiders" line LOL. I'd like to see those people out of the game too. But it's not possible. At the end of the day, it is what it is.
As for the fuel wars...raiding in top 3 has always required certain amounts of fuel burning. Back in the days, there were small amounts of fuel involved, mostly because the targets list was only offering one, two targets. The raiding community was not happy with not having the targets so the list was extended....and extended...and extended which allowed people who could spend ridiculous amounts of money in the game to score and score and score. At this point all one has to do is buy the fuel and then take really easy 20 pts targets that allow that person to finish the raid in a few seconds. So while a hard high pts target may allow you to score let's say 120 pts in 5 minutes, they score 20 pts every 20 seconds, go back, speed up, score 20 more... in the end they would have scored double as you in those 5 minutes. It is a vicious circle I guess: on one hand people want to have targets so they could raid and play, on the other hand the system is used by some to simply click to win. Don't know what the solution would be there.
About the ban wars. Yes, you are correct, it does require a conversation and some players could notice they're being trapped. But some, especially new players, don't even think of it. They don't even know exactly what could get them banned. Let me give you an example. When 187 started, immediately one of these guys moved a spy alt in there. A kiddo in the alliance, not knowing who that was, added him. We of course told him that he should kick that guy asap. The kiddo thought it would be a good idea to troll the spy a bit and sent him some silly messages saying that he was an IT guy who was able to see who was a spy or not. The spy, who's a long time player, saw the opportunity so he started to pock the kid into saying more silly stuff. "do you see my IP address?" "can you hack me?" etc. After that he reported the kid and got him banned. Voila! Another way they do it is reporting facebook pages that most players use just to play the game. Funny thing about this is that they report those pages as being fake ....and send the report from their own fake accounts. LOL But I guess facebook admins are not really paying attention to those details. One in our alliance got his facebook reported and blocked just last night (that's probably in preparation of the coming round LOL, thinning the lines of the enemies). Now...I call that foul play. They might call it strategy. LOL It is up to the devs in this game I think to slow down this ban war. Again, it didn't use to be like this, it's just gotten worse and worse though.
I understand that you see me as someone who simply got into a bad argument with a couple of members of I87. However, the reason I became more dimply involved in the issue was because of the overall reputation of the alliance seems quite bad across many different players. These are players who have been rude and aggressive to others all the time, either for attention or else. They feel the need to show that THEY are better, THEY are superior and they do it by being rude, and by showing off. It's since they feel like there is no apparent consequence giving them no reason to stop. I am not bringing facebook into this but I have been notified of some select comments and posts by I87 facebook accounts being aggressive again by showing that THEY have won, and THEY are the best. Please explain why they are so aggressive.
But on a separate note, talking about being able to see IP addresses and such is only available to the game's creators, not to a simple IT person. If an IT person could, it would mean that they have hacked the game which is a bannable offense either way, even if it is nothing but an empty threat. It is the kid's fault for trying to impersonate an IT technician, not the spy. Say for example, someone threatened to kill you and told you that they know where you live and that they will hunt you (metaphorical example, note, this is NOT TRUE). Even as an empty threat, it is still worrying, and should not be done and can be punished by imprisonment. The internet has strict rules many people do not realize. A simple racist comment on social media can lead to the police knocking on your door.
In the end, a hacker is someone who makes the game not enjoyable by altering it unfairly. What the most prominent members of I87 are doing seems to be quite similar to this definition without the "altering it unfairly" part. They make the game less enjoyable through their aggression, and that is not good advertising for new players anyway.
For example, let's say a new player wants to read up about the game quickly before trying it out. In the reviews, he sees that the game has been made unplayable by these sharks and certain members because of their "need for attention" through any means. This, first of all, is not a good advertising for the game and since bad news spreads fast, other people will hear about this and move away. It is in the game's interest to remove such pesky players to keep the game enjoyable (and the forums clean).
Again, returning to our previous topic, explain Wurstl's attitude towards lael over a T-shirt proposal. This is the kind of attacks experienced by many people in game with no warning or provocation. I don't know why, but by coincidence, many of them seem to have their main accounts and alt accounts affiliated with I87.
The topic or our argument was to explain the aggressiveness of some members which, per chance, have all been connected to I87 in some way. So again, I repeat my question................................why? Saying they are part of an international community is no valid answer. A criminal is part of an international community, does it justify their actions? No, such behaviour in person can be lead to the police getting involved. In this case, the game devs are the police. Obviously it is much harder to control this on an internet based medium, and people do it through the web because it's safer, cheaper, and they feel no like there is no risk. It is a coward's choice of weapon, and in reality, they are weak and unstable individuals in person.
So again, may I ask you..............why? Why is it so hard to just say STOP? If the Terms and Conditions state that such verbal attacks are a bannable offense, surely that should limit the rudeness in the system.
PS: Note, when you open a chat, these are the first lines that pop up in purple:
COMMAND: Communication system active. Be polite to your fellow survivors. Type /h for help (http://deadzonegame.com/chat-terms - Last Updated March 10, 2016)
Note the "BE POLITE TO YOUR FELLOW SURVIVORS" phrase. Now why should they be rude to others for no reason? Why..........