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ShamishA1

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Hey Con.. was just wondering why there are so low players in Kongregate..

One of the reason I found was the outdated info in the link :-  deadzonegame.com/register

In the link we can see that " Kongregate currently has lower level cap and some paid upgrades are not available"

but now we have DMU and same level cap as AG..

so I thought updating that info there would be great coz when a new player checks the link, he will choose AG for sure.. as thinks AG has better level Cap etc. according to the info there :)

And of course we need to find something to tell people why choose Kong Server (new Positive info.. why Kong is also a good choice should be nice idea in that deadzone register link) . They also join AG coz they know its merged so more players etc.

 

Hoping to get some more Ideas from rest of Players so more players can be Attracted in Kong server too :)


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Par Sennah

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So it appears there's no strong argument left standing to keep Kongregate player-base segregated from the rest. What would it take to have Kong player-base merged with AG and FB?


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No mate... it won't end good for most of Kong players there.. coz unlike of AG, Kong has more Free players and I have been In AG 2 yrs ago to check how are things there.. n I wasn't really happy with my findings.. you cannot compete in AG at all if you don't spend money.. specially Wars... either spend money for fuel to speed up or have x50 24x7 Active raiders.. you can only survive there if you already have Big n OP inventory... n it would kill the community totally if a merge happens in future.... I know every game needs Paid Players so game can survive.. no doubt. but it doesn't mean that we should totally kick all the free players outta there...free players are also the source of indirect income.. I also heard from my friends who were in Yahoo too that when their Yahoo friends migrated to AG and 95% of them quitted coz of level of competition was over their equipment, they cant spend that much money to buy so much fuel to win wars etc..as many players have like a fix value or amount that they will spend this amount of money on game per month


Edited by ShamishA1, 09 September 2017 - 03:24 PM.

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spikeyspike

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totally agree with sham 

as a player on KONG

 

who has played YAHOO

 

 and currently  still has a DMU account on AG

 

 


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Par Sennah

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@Shamish, see your point

 

I also played 2 years ago on AG. Quite a bit has changed since then. In 2015, the competition was very stiff and you pretty much had to rush to acquire the white flag book, or repair your base every 2nd day. Even as someone who paid for DMU, I could not acquire sufficiently good anti-raid gear, or something I could use to raid myself. Eventually, I stopped hoarding for gear and quitted. I started playing again this month with an alt.

 

What has changed? There are a lot less active players now, at least when it comes to raiding. For instance, during my lvling from 1 to 32 (again, with DMU), only one guy has attacked me. Well, I had new player protection until I was lvl 20, but still, this is a completely different situation I experienced in 2015.

 

We are ranking #7 right now in alliance war, but only 4 of us are active who have contributed 95% of war points and resource donations. Others have been casual, maybe logged in once or twice for a few hours. If we had 25 active players instead of 4, we could compete to be #1 in alliance war every week only by doing manual scavenge missions, not participating in a single raid. Make your own judgments, but I'd say it now does not take much to be a top alliance these days.


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I agree with Shamish.  I just recently hit lvl 55 on Kong, and still don't have the right weapons or tactics yet to beat the Island, or a pro attack on my compound.  My longest range weapon so far is a uni M417 with range of 35.  And my second longest range is only 30.  If I didn't have my white flag book and got merged into Armor Games, I be trashed constantly since I don't have the firepower to defend myself against so many pros.

 

The thing we as Kong players could do would be to rate the game highly on the Kong site and get as many others as we can to give it a high rating, to hopefully get more Kong players to try it.


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rpklover

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@Shamish, see your point

 

I also played 2 years ago on AG. Quite a bit has changed since then. In 2015, the competition was very stiff and you pretty much had to rush to acquire the white flag book, or repair your base every 2nd day. Even as someone who paid for DMU, I could not acquire sufficiently good anti-raid gear, or something I could use to raid myself. Eventually, I stopped hoarding for gear and quitted. I started playing again this month with an alt.

 

What has changed? There are a lot less active players now, at least when it comes to raiding. For instance, during my lvling from 1 to 32 (again, with DMU), only one guy has attacked me. Well, I had new player protection until I was lvl 20, but still, this is a completely different situation I experienced in 2015.

 

We are ranking #7 right now in alliance war, but only 4 of us are active who have contributed 95% of war points and resource donations. Others have been casual, maybe logged in once or twice for a few hours. If we had 25 active players instead of 4, we could compete to be #1 in alliance war every week only by doing manual scavenge missions, not participating in a single raid. Make your own judgments, but I'd say it now does not take much to be a top alliance these days.

 

 

Even having 25 dmu players who do manual missions nonstop wont win a war at all.

It doesnt matter how much you score, 10 raiders will easily beat that any day.

The reason why scores are low is because we slow down when there is not as much competition for 1st place.


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Peter_Man_CFD

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Hi guys. I'm not a Kong server first off (I only play via Armor Games)

 

I did have an account on Kong, as well other accounts in various other games, notable The Godfather: Five Families game.

This game was unfortunately taken down on the Kong server with little to know warning, so I saw 2yrs play literally disappear on the Kong server in the 2 weeks notice that they did give :/

 

And after that experience on Kong servers, I have to say, I will never go back to using Kongregate.

 

A good solution would be to merge both Kong server and ArmorGames/Facebook server..would create an epic game! :D


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rpklover

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Hi guys. I'm not a Kong server first off (I only play via Armor Games)

 

I did have an account on Kong, as well other accounts in various other games, notable The Godfather: Five Families game.

This game was unfortunately taken down on the Kong server with little to know warning, so I saw 2yrs play literally disappear on the Kong server in the 2 weeks notice that they did give :/

 

And after that experience on Kong servers, I have to say, I will never go back to using Kongregate.

 

A good solution would be to merge both Kong server and ArmorGames/Facebook server..would create an epic game! :D

It's a bad idea, AG and kong's market are completely different, the market would crash if both servers merged.

 

Also, PVP is very different, we win wars by scoring 30K points here while I've seen 300K scored on AG once and plenty of rounds going over 100K points.

We simply don't spend the fuel AG does by speeding up raids to win wars. Merging both servers would destroy PVP on kong.

 

I played on AG about a month after the game launched and stayed there for over 3 years.

Then, I joined kong because I was getting tired of the ridiculous amount of trashing that was going on. It's also when I got tired of having no chance in wars unless I would spend large amounts of fuel to compete with the rest of the P2W guys.

 

Kong has absolutely no benefits to merging both servers. Our marketplace would be ruined and we wouldn't be able to compete in PVP, making plenty of us stop playing since it wouldn't be as fun anymore.

 

AG has little to gain from merging too. The 2 servers are simply far too different to play together in a single server.

You can ask almost everyone who are competitive on kong PVP and almost everyone who are competitive in trades on kong also. Merging would ruin our experience.

We already saw a large portion of our members quit 2 years ago when island came since it was very hard on the market. It's currently fragile enough and a push such as merging both servers would be the straw that breaks the camel's back.


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ShamishA1

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Peter I think u haven't read what I posted above.

Well anyways, another good advantage on Kong is that you can try/start the game without spending any money and there you can compete wars etc. Without spending large amount of money in an instant like in AG and if the new player likes the game enough he can start spending money in Kong Server only and get paid upgrades/ items.


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tingadabopper

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I'm not so sure this will do much as a lot of people start playing but just quit for whatever reason. 

 

Only thing that made me want to quit Kong when I started playing was the players. Especially the excuses lol.

 

Can't do this, can't do that, don't do this, don't do that. Telling people how to play and what to do thinking they run the server.

 

There's a few fair compound list trashers who just trash and loot all the new players here as well lol.

 

Plus it's probably just the game itself and the fact we're only one site. the game is so tedious, even with DMU so it won't be for A LOT of people. Just look at the inactive accounts on low level compound lists. A lot of higher level players quit recently too. It's a very buggy game, no more than the average game though, lots of lag if you got a bad PC too.

 

In terms of PvP alts made me want to quit making it impossible for new players to compete and making it more tedious and time consuming for current players. 

 

So I doubt this will do much but I'm willing to try and go along with anything. :) Kong server still seems better though based off what I've seen on the forums about AG lol. The week one alliance got 300k WP on AG. That's a ridiculous amount of playing or fuelling back lol, not even worth it.

 

But like you said, other is merged so more players so people will be attracted to that. Went off topic a bit but a lot of people on Kong do quit.

 

I'm sure AG has similar, if the not same problems we do but they already got a big active playerbase ^.^


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tingadabopper

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if you think it would help I could put a link in my youtube videos on dead zone as well. :)


Edited by tingadabopper, 11 September 2017 - 09:04 AM.

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ChrisHitchens

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Only thing that made me want to quit Kong when I started playing was the players. Especially the excuses lol.

 

Can't do this, can't do that, don't do this, don't do that. Telling people how to play and what to do thinking they run the server.

There's a few fair compound list trashers who just trash and loot all the new players here as well lol.

I'm sure AG has similar, if the not same problems we do but they already got a big active playerbase ^.^

And when no one says don't do this, don't do that is when you end up with people trashing players being the new normal.

I personally know plenty of people who quit because they got trashed repeatedly which is a big waste when, as you say, the player base is so small.

 

Getting new people to check out the game is one part of the recipy, getting them to stay is the other.


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passing player

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And when no one says don't do this, don't do that is when you end up with people trashing players being the new normal.

I personally know plenty of people who quit because they got trashed repeatedly which is a big waste when, as you say, the player base is so small.

 

Getting new people to check out the game is one part of the recipy, getting them to stay is the other.

Not gonna point at anyone, but we all know what trashing new players refer to... *cough*

(or hopefully.)

(also, my apologies if this somehow insults people. Please say so and I will fix it.)

 

Back to topic, the DCs and inability to connect is getting increasingly worse for me. It is a 50/50 on whether the game loads or not.


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