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RainbowDash_Love

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Hi dere partner

 

Con can you do something for me and my fellow survivors and look into the drop rate of gears everybody i tired of them now and the game is so saturated of them now that most of them end up being recycled.  I remember from the past that thing like melee vests and bandos were very rare and you would loot alot of m16s m4s ak74s and cr553s when you were looting for level 17-20 m24s and you only found an occasional bando or health vest. Now it seems the complete opposite. you find so many gears its not normal. the amount that turn unique is crazy too. i have had so many missions where i get multiple armors either blue purple rare or unique. i have been so demotivated to loot anymore that i only resort to island for my daily fix of unique and thats it since when you do manuals you only find armors and when you do find an unique weapon its most of the time the shotgun or the smg. I think it has something to do with the lucky/skilled update you introduced after the islands release since then i have seen multiple people complaining that they find too many gears. i can also see it from what i loot. i mostly loot the ultra low levels and i also get a majority of gears. the rate is about 5/6 gears to 1 weapon/melee

 

Please con do something people are fed up with this shit you and me both know something has changed over the years.

 

If there is way to develop your arsenal what is the point in playing this game? to be rewarded with an gear everytime ?

 

This has to stop con

 

please


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Luisssboom

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Agreed. Gears are too common, and even unique gears aren't a happy sight in our loot.


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Aubrey Dickson

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Yeah finding a lot of gears screwed with me finding countered weapons for my collection
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tehswordninja

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if bounties still haven't been fixed i kinda doubt this will be to, which kinda sucks

 

It'd definitely be nice if gears got toned down for sure, I've only found a few unique guns and they've been crappy smgs 


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qwee

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Arrows are gears been looting at levels 35-45 havent found any uni or rare yet......


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#6
Con

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The only thing that changed was the introduction of more. It could be the rarities on gear are just that much lower and so they show up. Guns and swords are more fun though, I agree. Will take a look for next maintenance.



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RainbowDash_Love

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The only thing that changed was the introduction of more. It could be the rarities on gear are just that much lower and so they show up. Guns and swords are more fun though, I agree. Will take a look for next maintenance.

What i seen and noticed that if gear gets the lukcy affix and then a green bonus then it inmediately turns purple or on rarer times blue, the majority of gears i get is lucky unique/rare


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Con

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What i seen and noticed that if gear gets the lukcy affix and then a green bonus then it inmediately turns purple or on rarer times blue, the majority of gears i get is lucky unique/rare

 

Gotcha, I'll take a look at the rarity ratings on those mods. They might be overvalued which would result in more rare / uniques of those types.



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RainbowDash_Love

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Gotcha, I'll take a look at the rarity ratings on those mods. They might be overvalued which would result in more rare / uniques of those types.

Thanks for looking into this tell us your findings im curious to know and glad this gear rain will top since its really bothering people


Edited by RainbowDash_Love, 15 August 2018 - 10:31 AM.

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RainbowDash_Love

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Gotcha, I'll take a look at the rarity ratings on those mods. They might be overvalued which would result in more rare / uniques of those types.

Any updates on the issue con?


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Matt Baker UK

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Hiya,

 

I did x9 played missions in a row to get x3 elites and my infected bounty done, I had all the boosts running including the bonus for the +25% chance to find quality items,

 

this is my new items folder afterwards:

 

https://imgur.com/a/9ZUnSvf

https://imgur.com/a/M7utgTx

https://imgur.com/a/aa9Q84G

https://imgur.com/a/9bvnhmj

https://imgur.com/a/vBmpvoS

 

I totted it up:

 

Weapons: x83, of which  x12 Green, x1 Blue, x1 Purple, x70 Common,

 

Gear: x52, of which x29 Green, x4 Blue, x13 Purple x4 Unique, x2 Common,

 

the quality of the weapons seems to be in a completely different universe to the quality of the gear,

 

I do have an account I keep out of alliances and it gets a much more even spread of uni weapons and gear,

 

Accounts within the alliance seem to get the best loot between the end of one war and the beginning of the next,

 

this week is the first week since well before the last event I've bought an 'item' boost, because I've been playing without boosts the change when running the mega is really noticeable,

 

since the end of the last event and buying this mega boost I'd found a nice PX-19 pistol and a couple of the MG's, one a 4/4

 

I'm going to stay away from the boosts for now,

 

the fuel boost, crafting, ammo discounts, xp bonus, health bonus, return time buffs all are great but the loot boost 'item'  seems screwy!

 

is there any chance it's got a deteriorating algorithm like you discovered with the War Targets?

 

I remember when peeps were bitching about water drops and you were quite insistent that you'd not changed anything, could that have been some incremental glitch in one of the loot algorithms?

 

I do have the screenshots for each missions report showing the loot coming in but it would have taken a bajillion imigur links to show it all, if you want to see the whole lot I could put all the images in a folder and email then to you,


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#12
Con

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Made some adjustments to the lucky and skilled mods for this maintenance. Check it out and let me know how it goes.

 

In your case Matt, it sounds like your quotas were being filled up by the gear, this should help switch things around a bit. Did you have a chronology of those items being found?



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Matt Baker UK

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Hiya,

I did a screenshot every mission report, the account had been idle for approx 48hrs and rested bonus was accumulated, this is the only account I have sufficient inventory space left to accumulate a large sample size without recycling finds and I managed to complete the x9 played missions without needing to refresh due to memory loading,

the first screenshot is date marked ‎15 ‎August ‎2018, ‏‎23:44:56

mission #1

https://imgur.com/a/kJfhrci
https://imgur.com/a/wuNMbkg
https://imgur.com/a/8uvfxUc
https://imgur.com/a/eEZdgyy

mission #2

https://imgur.com/a/F7ABt9I
https://imgur.com/a/hAqOYWq
https://imgur.com/a/Pr2INuB
https://imgur.com/a/HN3REbD

mission #3

https://imgur.com/a/BLkO1ki
https://imgur.com/a/jwq1PVo
https://imgur.com/a/CkpUGn5

mission #4

https://imgur.com/a/FQZhzRm
https://imgur.com/a/dfS6Lww
https://imgur.com/a/JKhmlom
https://imgur.com/a/zI3Pzw4

mission #5

https://imgur.com/a/DZmSl08
https://imgur.com/a/scuAWYs
https://imgur.com/a/dNKL1GC
https://imgur.com/a/7EkYIDL
https://imgur.com/a/ggyoGtt

mission #6

https://imgur.com/a/CsvZjGF
https://imgur.com/a/GCTtha4
https://imgur.com/a/ipwYtFE
https://imgur.com/a/qEYGdsf

mission #7

https://imgur.com/a/fK1KPJJ
https://imgur.com/a/hzW02FT
https://imgur.com/a/ri9WcOm

mission #8

https://imgur.com/a/sNP7E5m
https://imgur.com/a/ND2Jn2w
https://imgur.com/a/bmr6unK
https://imgur.com/a/cDO1Anh

mission #9

https://imgur.com/a/2YBLK5l
https://imgur.com/a/eJ0psPt
https://imgur.com/a/qA4W3OC

resultant new items folder content

https://imgur.com/a/g0zDpoB
https://imgur.com/a/kBD8E35
https://imgur.com/a/kabU7gf
https://imgur.com/a/SXyHVbe
https://imgur.com/a/R07Wpjd
https://imgur.com/a/WmNppsY
https://imgur.com/a/NyKsaSH
https://imgur.com/a/2DZh8Uf

the last screenshot is date marked ‎16 ‎August ‎2018, ‏‎01:24:11


imgur wanted to know if I was a robot towards the end of this!

User Id: fb100007423471938

Edited by Matt Baker UK, Yesterday, 08:58 AM.

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#14
RainbowDash_Love

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Made some adjustments to the lucky and skilled mods for this maintenance. Check it out and let me know how it goes.

 

In your case Matt, it sounds like your quotas were being filled up by the gear, this should help switch things around a bit. Did you have a chronology of those items being found?

I hope this will fix it im going to ask around in chat and see what they think about it if the rates have equalised or stayed the same, just wondering what did you change and was the lucky/skilled affix dropping more often ? since it wouldnt add up in what matt said he found a high stack of common weapons, wouldnt that mean that the chance of turning weapons green or higher is low? ( I dont have any idea how this loot script works )


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Matt Baker UK

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Update !

 

I ran another x9 missions on my main account, it also had rested for a couple of days, obviously it's between wars and there were no boosts running,

 

here's the new items folder:

 

https://imgur.com/a/u4eXAjB

https://imgur.com/a/Vbk0l3k

https://imgur.com/a/NnxotMP

https://imgur.com/a/nuJTgrK

 

the breakdown is:

 

50 weapons, of which x18 green, x3 blue, x0 purple, x29 common,

 

34 gear, of which x21 green, x5 blue, x0 purple, x1 rare, x7 common,

 

the noticeable thing is several of the blues would previously have been purples,

 

i.e.

 

https://imgur.com/a/GQTH00U

https://imgur.com/a/g823Jg6

https://imgur.com/a/ocYtrr0

https://imgur.com/a/OK3jhrF

 

the blue gear is usually police not military & sighted skilled weapons have been purple all along,

 

so this stuff can only turn rare now not uni,

 

they were constituting a lot of the uni's looted, with the weapons a 4/4 is based on a purple sighted skilled,

 

I think there might be some backlash over this!

 

your changes might have disqualified rather a lot of weapons & gear from turning purple, I've yet to find a purple today, I guess it would be a suppressed or recoilless weapon if I did, or a non lucky gear, 

 

purple melee should be ok as it's never skilled anyway,

 

another angle?

 

some time in the past, with the common & green weapons, you added a whole bunch of additional prefixes that had no effect on the item, generic, clean, civilian, polished, dirty, stock, clean civilian, clean generic, polished civilian, polished generic etc.

 

could this have something to do with the number of greens & commons in the loot hauls?


Edited by Matt Baker UK, Yesterday, 05:21 PM.

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Matt Baker UK

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Hiya,

 

I've done a bounty, found x3 elites and done half my tasks tonight,

 

tbh the loot landscape has changed quite radically,

 

the adjustment to skilled weapons and lucky gears, turning them blue, seems to have driven the uni gears we were getting a lot of into extinction!

 

also watching the uni's appearing on the caster, they're like back in the early days before skilled stuff was introduced,

 

idk if this is really the right approach to solving the problem we had in the first place,

 

any chance of back pedaling on this current change and trying a different approach?


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Aubrey Dickson

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Hiya,

 

I've done a bounty, found x3 elites and done half my tasks tonight,

 

tbh the loot landscape has changed quite radically,

 

the adjustment to skilled weapons and lucky gears, turning them blue, seems to have driven the uni gears we were getting a lot of into extinction!

 

also watching the uni's appearing on the caster, they're like back in the early days before skilled stuff was introduced,

 

idk if this is really the right approach to solving the problem we had in the first place,

 

any chance of back pedaling on this current change and trying a different approach?

What exactly do you mean by the unis are back to the way they were before skilled weapons came out ?

Edit: I have no idea what went wrong when I quoted you


Edited by Aubrey Dickson, Today, 02:21 AM.

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